Heads up Pennsylvania!!!

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    Call your reps.............now!!!

    https://www.ammoland.com/2019/03/firearms-registration-act-introduced-in-pennsylvania/

    Harrisburg, PA-(Ammoland.com)- A new bill introduced in Pennsylvania would establish a gun registry within the state.

    HB0768 is known as the Firearms Registration Act. The Democrats that introduced the bill were Mary Louise Isaacson (D), Angel Cruz (D), and Mary Jo Daley (D). Last Friday, the General Assembly referred the bill to the committee on judiciary.

    The bill would require gun owners in the Keystone State to register their firearms with the Pennsylvania State Police. Owners would have to provide the police with the make, model, and the serial numbers of all their guns.

    Along with the application that the gun owner must swear to under oath, the gun owner would have to submit fingerprints, two photographs that are no older than 30 days and go through a background check for each firearm that they own. This background check is the same one that they must go through to purchase a gun.

    In addition to this requirement, they must also provide the Pennsylvania State Police with their home and work address, telephone number, social security number, date of birth, age, sex, and citizenship. This requirement is more information than a person needs to vote.

    If the State Police rejects the person's application, then they will have ten days to appeal the decision. The owner must turn their firearms into the State Police within three days of receiving notification of the rejection. If a person does not appeal the decision within ten days, their right is forfeit.

    A gun owner cannot transfer any unregistered firearm. Anyone caught with an unregistered gun is guilty of a crime even if they are unaware of the firearm registration status. Also just holding an unregistered firearm at a range is a crime.

    The gun owner must keep all firearms unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock. If a firearms owner doesn't secure their firearm that way, they would be guilty of a crime. This rule even applies to homes with no children.

    The gun owner has 48 hours to update the State Police if they change jobs, phone numbers, addresses, or anything else on the application. If they do not update the State Police, then they could be prosecuted for violating the law.

    The certificate which will cost $10 per firearm will expire after one year. The gun owner would have to start the process over again to renew their certification. This process must be done 60 days before the certificate expires. The procedure can get confusing for gun owners with large collections.

    The bill makes no mention of how the state will enforce the law.
    Other states that have tried gun registration and bans have seen limited success. New Jersey has had zero magazines turned in since their magazine ban went into effect.

    New York saw nearly one million firearms owners defy the state law to register their “assault weapons.” The same thing played out in Connecticut when only 50,000 out of 350,000 registered their semi-automatic rifles.

    Expanding a registry to all firearms will be impossible to enforce without conducting door to door searches of houses. It is unclear how these Democrats plan to deal with this reality.

    None of the bill’s sponsor responded to our request for comment.
     
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    IF this passes...........DO NOT COMPLY!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Count on it Bro...!!

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    I'm not sure if this is defined as "Pie in the sky", "Shoot the moon", or "Wish upon a star" legislation but it IS the dictionary definition of "...Shall Not Be Infringed".
    If it does become law, I'm going to have to buy a place down here for Shooter13 to live:eek:.
     
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    Pennsylvania has had five constitutions during its statehood: 1776, 1790, 1838. 1874, and 1968.

    Prior to that, the colonial Province of Pennsylvania was governed for a century by a book titled Frame of Government, written by William Penn, of which there were four versions: 1682, 1683,1696, and 1701.


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    PENNSYLVANIA CONSTITUTION OF 1776

    1776:

    The Pennsylvania Constitution was ratified September 28, 1776 was the state's first constitution.

    It reads:

    XIII. That the people have a right to bear arms for the defense of themselves and the state; and as standing armies in the time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; And that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.


    1791:

    The Second Amendment contained in the Bill of Rights was adopted on December 15, 1791.

    It reads:

    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."




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    They can only try to do it by changing State Law...because WE THE PEOPLE control the Federal (Senate)

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    And then there is this:

    Iowa Legislature Approves Pro-Gun Constitutional Amendment
    { 6:00 pm on March 14, 2019 by Tom Knighton }



    The state of Iowa doesn’t have an amendment protecting the right to keep and bear arms at the state level.

    In theory, they shouldn’t need one. The Second Amendment should do that all on its own. However, with the Second constantly under attack by anti-gun Democrats in the House, it’s probably a good idea for states to have some protections.

    Now, Iowa is one step closer to fixing this oversight.

    Iowa’s Republican-controlled legislature voted Wednesday to approve a resolution to amend the state constitution to declare that the “right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.” The amendment requires any gun restrictions must be subject to “strict scrutiny,” the highest standard of judicial review.

    Critics warned that would mean gun safety laws are more likely to be challenged and possibly overturned in court.

    I’m pretty sure that’s a feature, not a bug.

    The truth is, gun laws need to be subject to strict scrutiny. They’re an infringement on the civil liberties of the individual. This isn’t something that should ever be taken lightly. Our Founding Fathers believed our rights were sacred, the natural gift from God that all men had.

    While they could be uneven in the application of that belief, it doesn’t change what they enshrined in the Constitution.

    There’s a reason states create these amendments.

    A person’s right to keep and bear arms is important. It’s a key factor in fighting crime, allowing individuals to have the means to fight back against armed attackers, burglars, or other threats. It’s vital to protect Iowa’s hunting heritage, something that’s coming under attack more and more. It’s a key part of the American way of life.

    If gun control gets overturned, I’m not going to even bother shrugging and saying, “Oh well.”

    These are standards that should be in place throughout the nation, at the federal and state level. Every gun control law should fall under strict scrutiny.

    Why do anti-gunners oppose this? Because they know gun control will fall apart if the judicial branch does as instructed. They know their pet laws won’t hold up because, deep down, they know they’re infringing on our civil rights. They know it, but they don’t want anyone else to know it. They won’t admit it, but why else oppose a constitutional amendment that’s already in place at the federal level?

    They don’t want judges looking to carefully at these laws because they know they’re unconstitutional.

    That should tell you a lot.

    I’m glad to see Iowa take this step. I hope any other state lacking a Second Amendment analog will rectify that very, very soon. Maybe by doing so, they’ll send a signal to certain parties in Washington that gun control isn’t the winning issue in 2020 they want to think it is. Iowa has made their voices loud and clear on that count. It’s time for others to do the same.

    Of course, that leaves the question of whether anyone will bother to listen or not.

    https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2019/03/14/iowa-legislature-approves-pro-gun-constitutional-amendment/

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    The reason why I've been stockpiling and bought land in the middle of nowhere Pennsylvania.

    When it goes down... I will be the wolf...not the prey.

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